Romans 8:29

Romans 8:28-30
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.












The first thing that must be understood is that this passage is referring to Christians, that is, those who “love God” and are “called according to His purpose” (Romans 8:28), and it is these that are the objects of God’s blessing.

Calvinist, George Whitefield, states: “...the whole of Romans 8, is speaking of the privileges of those only who are really in Christ.” (A Letter from George Whitefield to the Rev. Mr. John Wesley, emphasis mine)

Non-Calvinist, Dave Hunt, comments: “...Romans 8 us clearly addressed to Christians.” (Debating Calvinism, p.87, emphasis mine)

I agree 100%.

Adrian Rogers explains God’s work of predestination:What is Predestination? Predestination is not God saying from eternity that one man’s going to heaven and another man is going to hell. Predestination deals primarily with what God intends to do for those who trust Him and what God will do for saved people. Predestination teaches me on the authority of God that when I’ve trusted Christ as my personal Savior and Lord, I will be like Jesus Christ.” (What We Have in the Lord Jesus, Ephesians 1:1-12, emphasis mine)

Adrian Rogers adds: “When God sees me receiving Christ as my personal Lord and Savior, He predestines me to be like the Lord Jesus Christ. ... When God made the decision to conform me to the image of Christ, it started with my decision to accept Jesus as my Savior.” (Foundations For Our Faith: Vol.II, A Study in Romans Chapters 5-9, pp.105, 106, emphasis mine)

One member of The Society of Evangelical Arminians explains:With respect to salvation in Christ, predestination speaks not to WHO will be among the elect, but WHAT Gods ultimate purposes are for those who are elect in Christ. So predestination to conformity to Christs image (Rom. 8:29); adoption (Eph. 1:5); and living to the praise of Gods glory (Eph. 1:11-12) are Gods ends for the elect in Christ. Predestination doesnt speak to who is saved or not. Rather, it speaks to the destiny of those who are saved/elect. (SEA)










John Calvin writes: “I know the objections which many make here: when Paul says that those are predestinated whom God foreknew, he means that each is elected in view of his faith. But I cannot allow them this false supposition. God is not to be understood as foreseeing something in them which procures grace for them; rather they are foreknown because they were freely chosen. Hence Paul elsewhere teaches the same thing: God knows them that are His (II Tim. 2.19), because, that is, He holds them marked and as it were numbered in His roll. Nor is the point omitted by Augustine: the terms foreknowledge is to be taken as meaning the counsel of God by which He predestines His own to salvation. No one denies that it was foreknown by God who were to be heirs of eternal life. The real question is whether what He foresees is what He will make of them or what they will be in themselves.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, pp.70-71, emphasis mine)








Calvinist, James White, writes: “The direct object of ‘foreknow’ when used of God is always personal. God foreknows the elect (Romans 8:29), His people (Romans 11:2), and Christ (1 Peter 1:20). These are all personal objects, never events. This means that, for the person who wishes to dismiss this section of Scripture using the ‘foreknowledge defense,’ the task is difficult indeed, for such a person will have to explain how this one usage is the exception, and why, in the context, if must bear a meaning seen nowhere else.” (Debating Calvinism, p.146, emphasis mine)








Calvinist, James White, writes: “It refers to the choice to enter into relationship with someone. In this case, in eternity past God chose to enter into personal relationship with His elect people, even before bringing them into existence. The relationship is so personal, so intimate, that it is proper to speak of it in the sense of foreloving. God’s eternal choice was to enter into a loving, intimate relationship with the elect. This results in His predestinating them to adoption as sons, His calling them into relationship with Him in time, His justifying them by declaring them righteous, and His glorifying them in His presence for all eternity.” (Debating Calvinism, p.146, emphasis mine)

If we are talking about His elect people in Christ, then yes, I agree that Romans 8:29 reveals God’s plan for a specific people who are foreknown by Him, but that’s not what Calvinists mean by, “the elect.” The Calvinist concept of the elect is really the elect in the Father, who on that account, are given, drawn and chosen to be selected to become in Christ. This is more fully dealt with at Ephesians 1:4.

Robert Picirilli states: “Furthermore, ‘foreknowledge’ in the Bible is, at least some of the time, something more than prescience. Arminius credited this, even in the discussion of predestination. He observed that some explain foreknowledge (in Rom. 8:29) as meaning ‘previously loved, and affectionately regarded as His own,’ while others define it as ‘prescience of faith in Christ.’ And then he proceeds to inquire whether one of these can be true without the other, concluding, ‘God can “previously love and affectionately regard as His own” no sinner unless He has foreknown him in Christ, and looked upon him as a believer in Christ.’” (Grace, Faith, Free Will, Contrasting Views of Salvation: Calvinism and Arminianism, p.56, emphasis mine)

If it is speaking of those whom He has foreknown in Christ, then being in Christ is the head, not tail, of the Golden Chain of Romans 8:29-30.

Question:  What does it mean that “those whom He foreknew, He predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son?

Answer:  Those in Christ that He did foreknow, He predestined to receive all that comes with being a Christian, that is, to be conformed to the image of Christ, to receive a unique purpose and calling as a Christian and to be justified and glorified.
It should also be pointed out that there are two calls. There is the call to live in Christ, which is to all men (Matthew 22:14), and then there is the Christian’s call, which is specific to Christians, which is our vocation in Christ, that is, our specific purpose as a Christian, that God has called us to complete.
I agree that Romans 8:29 is about how God will make use of people, which in this context, are Christians.
I agree that it’s personal,” and that it is of the elect, but ony if we understand the elect as the elect in Christ, that is, Christians, which Calvinists do not agree.